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How do we know it’s you?

By: Remax Gallery
Thursday, February 28, 2008 8:52 PM

Over the past several years unauthorized access in to a home has gone from a not so often experienced concern to a situation where many agents are giving lockbox combinations out to just about anyone you can imagine. It is a small percentage of agents overall that are doing this but it is that small number that create issues for all of us. When we sign a listing contract with a seller, be it a bank or an owner we are contracting to allow a cooperative real estate brokerage access as well. That arrangement is between the listing brokerage and a buyer brokerage only. To break this down and make it simple, the contract does not include our buyer clients alone, a home inspector, a contractor, our personal assistants or anyone else for that matter.

 

Did you know that anyone entering a home other than a REALTOR is considered to be trespassing and in breach of the listing contract? Did you know that you or your office can be held liable if something happens while any of those individuals are in that home while not represented by you or the listing agent?

 

What would happen if you gave a lockbox combination to someone and around the same time the furnace, A/C unit and all the plumbing was stolen?

 

What happens if someone you gave the lockbox combination to doesn’t secure the home when leaving and the home gets robbed or worse?

 

What happens if you give a lockbox combination to your buyer client, they go in the home, fall down the stairs and are seriously injured or even die from injuries?

 

Under any of these circumstances the authorities could or will get involved. If the authorities get involved, don’t you think they are going to request a record of who was provided access to the home, especially if there is no sign of a break in? Of course there won’t be a record of the unauthorized visitor but they will go down the list and question everyone who was given access to the home. Another logical question will be for them to ask if you gave it to anyone else.

 

How can you be certain that anyone you give a lockbox combination is not going to give it to someone else they know? There are just too many liabilities involved in passing around a lockbox combination.

 

There are some simple ways for you and your office to reduce the problem immediately. Some offices already have this policy in place. Speaking for our office, we will only use one method of contact for confirming an appointment and giving out a lockbox code, through your main office phone. If we get transferred to your cell, home office line or your personal desk line through that main office line, we’re ok with that. We will never authorize anyone other than a REALTOR to be in the home. Our office would expect the same treatment when showing one of your listings. The second part of that policy is to never ever give a lockbox combination out to anyone. If an appraiser, inspector, buyer client or anyone else needs access to a home we need to be there to ensure our client’s property is protected.   

 

Our profession is very much under attack. People are looking for all kinds of ways to discredit the usefulness of our profession. We need to do everything we can as representatives of our offices to uphold our professionalism, protect our clients, our offices and ourselves.

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Taxes » How do we know it???s you? said:

February 28, 2008 9:37 PM

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BiteMyTongueRaw said:

Since we have another anonymous pinger I decided not to show my face, I'm biting my tongue but my cup runneth over anyways...

This is the problem of popular Number Ones REALTORS with oh so many sales to their names.

Regular salespeople who service their clients personally and singly do not have that problem but yet WE have to contend with this other insult to our profession...

You can erase it if you want to, but I had to say it!!!

February 28, 2008 10:20 PM

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BiteMyTongueRaw said:

Since we have another anonymous pinger I decided not to show my face, I'm biting my tongue but my cup runneth over anyways...

This is the problem of popular Number Ones REALTORS with oh so many sales to their names.

Regular salespeople who service their clients personally and singly do not have that problem but yet WE have to contend with this other insult to our profession...

You can erase it if you want to, but I had to say it!!!

February 28, 2008 10:20 PM
Jay & Francy Thompson  REALTORS®
Member Since '05

Jay & Francy Thompson REALTORS® said:

What does an anonymous pinger have to do with showing your face??? It's just a bot from a scraper site that left that.

March 1, 2008 4:37 PM
Candice A Donofrio
Member Since '07

Candice A Donofrio said:

I can't even wrap my mind around any of this.

Only our Association's members can get a lockbox key. We don't give codes for access to our listings to anyone. Affiliates who have lockbox keys are carefully scrutinized. I know this because I have to let most of them in.

Not certain how it works in your area, David, but if codes are given out to non REALTORS or affiliates, I'd be attending your local Association's board meetings about getting some rule upgrades going. :)

March 2, 2008 9:41 AM
Shelly  Constantz
Member Since '07

Shelly Constantz said:

Candice, you must have a supra key in my area, we don't use combo lockboxes, but it has come to my attention that some MLS's use contractor combo boxes.  I find them to be very scary!!!  Anyone can be given the combo lock, and you cannot track who was in the home, and when.  With electronic keypass, you have a record.  If I were an owner selling in those areas, I would INSIST on the agent using a supra keybox.  

David maybe you need to take up the crusade for moving into the 21st century with your MLS?

Shelly

March 4, 2008 8:15 AM
Candice A Donofrio
Member Since '07

Candice A Donofrio said:

Shelly is right on, the contractor boxes are scary.

And the electronic boxes that enable us to track usage are the only way to go in this age of identity and actual theft . . .

Supra is what we use.

March 4, 2008 10:54 AM
Craig Barrett
Member Since '07

Craig Barrett said:

Double check your E&O. It may not cover combo lock boxes.

March 4, 2008 2:47 PM
Candice A Donofrio
Member Since '07

Candice A Donofrio said:

Yes, that is likely true!

March 4, 2008 3:28 PM
Remax  Gallery
Member Since '04

Remax Gallery said:

Thank you all for your comments. My office has not had any issues but you hear from time to time about some funny business happening. Our policy to ensure we know who we are talking to is to call through the office. As far as the electronic boxes go our board/mls used them for awhile....it was quite a joke. They are not the answer to security. With my little experience using them and what I was told they were not all they were cracked up to be. But if your board/mls are using them and it is working that's good. Our MLS Realcomp....probably the biggest here in Michigan did make some suggestions regarding the use of lockboxes and appointment confirmations. In fact they were very similar to my post....maybe they read it. Their memo went out the day after I put this out. Thanks again!

March 11, 2008 7:37 PM
Remax  Gallery
Member Since '04

Remax Gallery said:

I will definately look in to the E&O to see if there are any issues. I don't recall seing anything regarding lockboxes.

We don't or any offices dont give combos out to non agents. The problem happens when an agent give a combo out to a home inspector etc. I've heard even in some cases a potential buyer. You know how I feel about all that from my posting above.....It's not to be tolerated!

March 11, 2008 7:41 PM
Mipeco Realty, Inc -  Michaela Krestenic, Broker-Owner
Member Since '03

Mipeco Realty, Inc - Michaela Krestenic, Broker-Owner said:

We actually use combo lockboxes quite a lot. While we do use Supra keys in our area, there are a lot of "city" agents (from Chicago) who do not have Supras and still want to be able to show homes outside of the area. Plus, our MLS (MLS of Norther Illinois) consists of quite a few boards and the recent decision has been that some members will continue using new Supras while most other boards will go with a different system, creating even a bigger mess that may push more agents to start using combo lockboxes. So, in a way, we are going backwards!

March 11, 2008 7:50 PM

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