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Gail MacMillan, Broker - Titusville, Brevard County FL

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Requesting a Brain-Storm on How to Effectively Handshake out of State

By: Gail MacMillan
Friday, March 16, 2007 4:25 PM

COULD THIS WORK???  I'll start this way - if an agent has devoted the time and energy to get their PI over (say) 5000 would you agree this agent is serious about their job?  Assuming the answer is yes, could we then harness the power of Handshake to display their listings State by State on our websites.  If we get an inquiry on one of their listings could we work out a referral agreement?  This would seem easier to manage than rooting through the thousands of requests that come to us per the current system.  Do the benefits outweigh the effort?  Is anyone doing this now?  Through the Reliberation Blog and Message Boards I've come to feel like I know some of you well enough to say it would be my pleasure to display your listings on my website.  I'm having a difficult time accepting Handshake in it's current incarnation and I'm seeking ideas to bring Handshake to a new level of usefulness.  I would rather spend the time adding the selling areas of selected agents vs weeding through the pendings and new listings daily.  So I'm tossing it out there for a good old-fashioned brainstorming.
I'm really hoping we can get together on this.  Have a fun St. Patrick's Day.

Gail MacMillan - http://www.HomeSweetHomeFlorida.com

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Carol and Steve Coldwell Banker Parker Realty
Member Since '05

Carol and Steve Coldwell Banker Parker Realty said:

Sounds like a great idea Gail.  (good to see you over here on Reliberation).  I'll be within the next six months, Point 2 will have something started on this very subject.

Happy St. Patrick's Day to you too.  We are getting ready for the inevitable St. Paddy's day winter storm.  It seems to be a regular thing here on PEI.  Winter storm warning for tonight.  

Carol

March 16, 2007 2:59 PM
Mike Farmer
Member Since '03

Mike Farmer said:

I would like to P2 create the ability to section handshake agreements in regions and states, so that they are seperate and encourage the type of referrals you are suggesting.

I know they have it sectioned out on NLS, but when prospects come to our website, there ought to be some easy way to merge the two, so that the prospect can search a wide area, or a state, or even out of state if they are local and want to move.

I obviously haven't given this a lot of thought, but I dimly sense what i want.

March 16, 2007 3:00 PM
Mipeco Realty, Inc -  Michaela Krestenic, Broker-Owner
Member Since '03

Mipeco Realty, Inc - Michaela Krestenic, Broker-Owner said:

Gail, I have thought about it quite a lot ... I added an area in Florida and tested it on Becky ... to see if the handshake would go through. I'd love to do this kind of out of state handshake with agents in certain areas throughout the US but first would like to know if this wouldn't be against any laws and regulations? Would a disclaimer, perhaps specifying that these ARE NOT our listings and that we ARE NOT licensed to sell in these states but cooperate in our referral network, etc. work to avoid confusion? I've asked this previously on the message board, but haven't gotten any responses. .... does anyone have the answer?

March 16, 2007 3:23 PM
Gail MacMillan
Member Since '05

Gail MacMillan said:

Good comments.  Michaela's right - we must not violate any state/provincial laws.  Vance Remele has his thing going on Between Florida and Georgia.  I believe he's licensed in both states.  Vance you out there - please pop in and let us know what you think.  Perhaps P2 will help us out as well.  It was mentioned on the message board that there's a Handshake shakedown taking place.  I've not seen it reflected in my pendings, etc.

Carol - do have information you'd like to share about events to come within 6 months?  Are you part of the new panel?

I'll check back in the morning.  Tonights a dinner/play Titusville style ;-).

Hey it's Camelot and the local talent is pretty darn good.

March 16, 2007 3:36 PM
Mike Farmer
Member Since '03

Mike Farmer said:

It could be a referral site, maybe, where handshake listings are sectioned by state. If it is identified as a referral site, that would avoid the impression of trying to sell in those areas.

March 16, 2007 3:38 PM
Cathy  Clark
Member Since '06

Cathy Clark said:

Gail,

I would love this!  Being on Cape Cod, I have a large population of retirees (and future retirees) looking in FL, NV, AZ, NM and other warmer climates.  I would be doing my "folks" a great service by offering links to listings in these areas.  Georgia, the Carolinas and Texas are becoming very popular, as well.

Carol & Steve, I'm feeling your pain....snow when I woke up this morning, sleet and freezing rain at 3:00, back to snow.  And it's headed your way.  I can't complain, we've had a typically mild Cape Cod winter.

Cathy

March 16, 2007 3:43 PM
Scott McClain
Member Since '06

Scott McClain said:

Gail,

The Pendings are not being sorted out yet. It is an automated program and they have it running to do one section of the handshakes at a time. Apparently it would overload the system that the program is running on. The pendings should start in the next few days according to support.

March 16, 2007 4:54 PM
Kathy Stanavitch QSC
Member Since '06

Kathy Stanavitch QSC said:

Gail and everyone I like that idea, we can section it off. Our people are either going -9 out of 10 to Florida. When they fill that up they go to the Carolina's, south mostly. I also heard from an agent in Atlantic City they are going to Delaware almost no tax at all, why shouldn't we get referrals directly. I came from big corp. relocation and when it got to 40% I went on my own to RE/MAX. I just think when we work we work hard trying to please out buyers' and sellers' and we could offer that service to potential sellers' ahead of time and get first crack. I always ask the seller if I can get them an agent where they are going. That would only ad to our power. This is getting to be a habit for me, we are in the middle of a ice snow storm. I may need a referral agent myself.

March 16, 2007 7:27 PM
Kathy Stanavitch QSC
Member Since '06

Kathy Stanavitch QSC said:

Gail and everyone I like that idea, we can section it off. Our people are either going -9 out of 10 to Florida. When they fill that up they go to the Carolina's, south mostly. I also heard from an agent in Atlantic City they are going to Delaware almost no tax at all, why shouldn't we get referrals directly. I came from big corp. relocation and when it got to 40% I went on my own to RE/MAX. I just think when we work we work hard trying to please out buyers' and sellers' and we could offer that service to potential sellers' ahead of time and get first crack. I always ask the seller if I can get them an agent where they are going. That would only ad to our power. This is getting to be a habit for me, we are in the middle of a ice snow storm. I may need a referral agent myself.

March 16, 2007 7:28 PM
Gail Griffin
Member Since '03

Gail Griffin said:

Gail,

I have thought about this as well and think it is a great idea. We get a lot of retirees and snowbirds that buy second homes in Southern California or looking for 55+ communities.

It was 90+ here today! Snow? What is snow?

March 16, 2007 7:49 PM
Mary Matero
Member Since '06

Mary Matero said:

I love the idea.  We get many people moving into Florida but there are many leaving, too.  Just in the past couple of months I've had sales where the owners moved to Arizona, Georgia, and North Carolina. Many of our snowbirds will be moving into smaller homes in the north.  I say give people a reason to want to stay on our sites longer.

March 16, 2007 8:04 PM
Gail MacMillan
Member Since '05

Gail MacMillan said:

Good Morning Everyone,

OK - so we all like this idea, now lets figure out the schematics to put it to practical use.  Baby steps!

Michaela, what was the result of your test with Becky?  Did you add a disclaimer?  Was Florida shown under a separate heading in your handshake section?  Could you do a copy and paste here so we can see how it would be viewed by anyone looking at your website?  Thanks.  

Carol - would you like to participate in a similar test?  Let's see how Canada would look on my florida website.  Maybe I could superimpose a pretty palm tree standing in your snowbank.  Sorry - I couldn't resist LOL

March 17, 2007 7:54 AM
Becky Troutt
Member Since '05

Becky Troutt said:

Gail,

I was trying to do the same thing as you explain, however professional members are only allowed to select a total of 30 selling areas and premium members are allowed 75 areas.

This is including the areas you already have selected as your current selling areas that you really do sell in.

I gave up and just stuck with Florida and selected some other areas up and down the west coast and added them to another page titled "Other Florida Listings."

I would of loved to do this.  I wanted listings for every state on my site and some from other countries in case people were looking for second homes.  

I think it would be cool if we could display every single handshake listing in the system on our websites if we wanted to, but have it somewhat oraganized where they could search from one page all the states and countries for listings, and anytime they click on a listing if they are on our website, it still brings up our contact info, just like it does now.  Then we could refer the lead out to someone that works in that area.

The possibilites of referrals could be endless!

March 17, 2007 8:16 AM
Gail MacMillan
Member Since '05

Gail MacMillan said:

Morning Becky,

Wow - right you are! We are, therefore, highly restricted by the selling area limitation.  Alright then, let's look at it from a different angle. There is still the ability to copy & paste (c&p) handshake listings from one site to another.  In that case the effort would be the selection process which could prove very time consuming.  On second thought, c&p listings may not update.  Hmmmmm (feeling kinda like Ron Tarvin, mumbling out loud).  Does anybody know how many agents have PI scores >5000?  Hey - guess what, it might be a big job, but I bet it wouldn't hurt our own scores to add that much content.  Let's keep thinking - there must be a way to do this.  The potential for referrals might prove worthy of the task.  

March 17, 2007 9:06 AM
Mipeco Realty, Inc -  Michaela Krestenic, Broker-Owner
Member Since '03

Mipeco Realty, Inc - Michaela Krestenic, Broker-Owner said:

Gail, sorry for taking so long to respond to your question ... have been sick the last few days ... I was successful approving the handshake with Becky ... but haven't done anything with it yet as I still don't know whether it's a good idea legally ... I did notice one thing though ... after adding two Florida counties to my "selling areas" ... I now have a lot of new neighborhoods to choose from in my handshake listings selection, so I'm sure it would work but it will be a major headache trying to search through the towns that way. Because the towns are not identified by state or at least the county they are in, if you were to add couple more out of state selling areas, you would simply get lost among all the new towns you could choose to display. So unless they get somehow organized, it would be a total nightmare trying to manage it. ... not sure if I'm making any sense here ... it's hard to explain it.

March 19, 2007 10:49 PM
Gene Carey
Member Since '03

Gene Carey said:

Maybe you simply need to use the KISS formula.

For example, if I added a link on my site to view listings in Florida and requiring a registration form, why couldn't I send the viewer to Gails' site and follow up with an email to her with the viewers registration information? We could both follow up with the potential buyer to see if they saw anything of interest and whether they had a home in Illinois to sell. By mutually agreeing on the linking, referral agreements would have already been in place.

The only problem I can see with this is the inter-linking of P2 to P2 sites which is very questionable. A page full of links to other P2 state sites would look like nothing more than a link farm to search engines.

March 20, 2007 11:14 AM
Gail MacMillan
Member Since '05

Gail MacMillan said:

Oh geez - Just wrote a long post and it disappeared.  Sorry, with American Idol on, don't want to rethink or redo.  Like Michaela I've been quite sick for 3-4 days and going to be away until the 27th.  Jist was Professionals have 50 selling areas and Premiums have 250.  Being selective we could manage to feature the listings of those we feel most comfortable with.  Trick being keeping listings updated if we were to use the copy and paste method of placing said listings on our respective sites.  I'm willing try this on a case by case basis and feel there are a good many minds here that might contribute to this idea.  I really believe this could work and I'll check back here when I return on Monday.  Meantime - American Idol rocks, you gotta love these kids, they are so amazing.  

March 20, 2007 8:01 PM

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