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Short Sales What do we do???????

By: Lu Cohen
Friday, June 15, 2007 10:31 PM

Everyone is talking about short sales. Is ther anyone in our group that is willing to share the exact procedure? Maybe banks that they have dealt with in the past or now?  You know that there are major players in every state and it woud help all of us if someone was willing to spend the time to walk us all through.  I have specific questions but someone with experience might shed some light on the subject. I know there is no magic bullet. There has to be a plan out there! You can go on the internet but it always appears shady to me. I trust my fellow Point 2 agents to guide us all.

 

Believe it or not I have a friend that has sent me numerous referrals....and now they are in the position of foreclosure. I would do anything to help them. They have made mistakes, have lost jobs and over borrowed on their home. Nothing bothers me more than not have the power to actually use my skills to help them!  I think they are just going to walk away and I know it is going to have ramifications for their future.  I am not trying to excuse their bad judgement but we are only human!

 

 

 

 

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Joe Leksich
Member Since '06

Joe Leksich said:

Lu,

Tell you friends you can help them.  Doing a short sale is a much better option than foreclosure.  I sold a house a few years ago that was a short sale and 6 months later he had is finances back together and was able to buy a new home.  With a foreclosure on your credit, it could take 2 years or more to be able to buy again.

I have done a lot of Short Sales.  With a variety of banks.  Each bank has thier own procedure so there is no standard proceedure for short sales.  BUT there are some things you can do to protect you and your client.  And you can make it go a little easier if you know what to do.

I am working on a procedure manual for handling short sales.  When I have this done (hopefully by Monday) I will post it here.

If anyone has a specific question, please feel free to email me at Joe@JoeRealEstateFW.com

June 15, 2007 8:50 PM
Lu Cohen
Member Since '06

Lu Cohen said:

oh Joe ! Thank you so much!  It means a lot to me.....do you think we should list it below market value ( i know that seems like a dumb question)  I have to get them back online ASAP..they are defeated!!! gorgeous home in immaculate condition....not trashed or anything!!! :(

June 15, 2007 8:57 PM
Jana  Davis & Marcia Demerjian
Member Since '05

Jana Davis & Marcia Demerjian said:

Make sure the seller can qualify (yours sounds like they do).  Just because the home prices have fallen does not mean a lender will do a short sale.  The seller must have a legitimate hardship.  Loss of job, illness, death of spouse, divorce... The lender will ask to verify this and may ask for paycheck stubs, tax returns, bank statements, etc.  

Lu I would price it at or just below the last sales for that size and condition home.  You are going to get wacky offers, but just remember your client will more than likely than not be given a 1099 for the difference.  A lot of agents don't understand this kind of sale and are treating it like a REO, thinking they are going to get a great deal for their client.  Warn you client about that so they don't get upset.  We have been countering those offers and educating the agents sending them to us.  

They should call the lender and request everything they can (waiver of late fees, early payoff fees if any, and possible forgiveness so no 1099.)  And at this point you seller may be so discouraged and embarrassed they just don't care anymore.  If you explain the process to them you can give them some hope.  The need to contact the lender also.  You would be surprised how many people don't.  The lender will work with them!

You are going to have more questions then answers pop up and Relib is a great place to get some answers.  I think Joe has done the most so far so can give some great advise.

Good luck!

Jana

June 15, 2007 9:26 PM
Gene Carey
Member Since '03

Gene Carey said:

Lu - Not too long ago I posted a thread titled "How To Do A Short Sale" and posted this link which you may find helpful:

http://www.realtor.org/rmomag.NSF/pages/Feat1200706?OpenDocument

June 15, 2007 10:37 PM
Jana  Davis & Marcia Demerjian
Member Since '05

Jana Davis & Marcia Demerjian said:

Great article Gene, I read it a couple of weeks ago and just re-read it.  It cleared up a couple of questions that popped up with our buyers offer on a short sale.  Before I was concentrating on sellers end.  Thank you for posting it again!

Lu the article says "In general, most short sale experts say to price the property at or near fair market value, although a few will begin with the total payoff amount owned by the seller. How frequently prices are dropped will depend in part on whether the property is in preforeclosure."

Jana

June 15, 2007 11:41 PM
Shelly  Constantz
Member Since '07

Shelly Constantz said:

Thanks for the link, Gene.  And Joe, I am looking forward to your information as well.  I don't have any clients in the short sale situation YET, but awful close.  so being prepared just seems prudent.

thanks for sharing,

shelly

June 16, 2007 7:44 AM
Gail Griffin
Member Since '03

Gail Griffin said:

If the lender will not forgive the debt and intends to file the 1099, they can request the lender provide a small loan to cover the difference rather than receive the 1099. This will protect their credit as well as eliminate a tax burden.

June 16, 2007 7:50 AM
Sharron and Steve Lobman
Member Since '06

Sharron and Steve Lobman said:

Thanks for the link, Gene.

June 16, 2007 2:32 PM
"Dee" Mayers
Member Since '07

"Dee" Mayers said:

There is also information on http://www.realtor.org., that maybe helpful.  Or, contact your local board for upcoming seminars on short sales.

June 17, 2007 6:52 PM
Kevin Orak
Member Since '06

Kevin Orak said:

I am currently handling a short sale for a client ( a seller ). What I am finding is the bank becomes your client as well. Each bank is different and requirements are different from state to state as well. The first thing that I needed in order to get started was a letter from my client stating that I have his permission to contact the bank directly. After that I spoke with the bank and explained the market conditions, we discussed a price that was much below what the client owes and the bank makes a decision.

June 19, 2007 6:44 AM
Robert Aldana
Member Since '07

Robert Aldana said:

I invite you to view my interview with CPA Manuel Alvarez on my television show "Let's Talk Real Estate!" as we discus the tax consequences of a Short Sale and Foreclosure. You can view the show online at:

http://www.letstalkrealestate.com/ltretelevision.htm

It is also available in Spanish. Best of luck!

Robert Aldana

REALTOR since 1986 and Host of TV & Radio's "Let's Talk Real Estate!"

www.letstalkrealestate.com

robert@letstalkrealestate.com

August 30, 2007 1:37 AM

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