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Rets

By: Mary DeWitt
Thursday, June 05, 2008 7:58 PM

Has anyone read the info on rets in your emails from point2?

The NAR is having everyone use a rets system I believe by 09.

There is a new standard rets.  my understanding is that is being used by areas in Florida, Calif and out east.

We had a meeting on it at our mls.  does anyone know if point 2 is going to use the standard rets?

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Gary Szolosi
Member Since '03

Gary Szolosi said:

Mary when you use an acronym you confuse the issue. Explain the acrronym rets.

June 6, 2008 3:08 AM
Gary Szolosi
Member Since '03

Gary Szolosi said:

Mary I thought I would answer my own question. Rets are the Real Estate Transactions System.

It is another intrusive regulation that says that we must all comply for the greater good of all to set up our data bases to comply with a format that allows all to have access.

Just another liberty removed.

June 6, 2008 3:19 AM
Gregory Bain
Member Since '03

Gregory Bain said:

Gary, isn't this a good thing? Shouldn't all MLS companies be required to present the data in the same format? I know I wish the cell phone companies and other electronic companies were required to conform to the same jacks and connectors. But, then I am a liberal ; )

June 6, 2008 7:44 AM
Mike  Robins
Member Since '06

Mike Robins said:

This whole everyone must be the "same" thing is killing us all.

What happened to being rewarded for a new and fresh idea ?

This all boils down to the one world order which only has room for the very rich companies who are making all things standard,  the ones with the most money wins.

Look at Wal-Mart as a prime example of standardized- One place to get everything your heart desires. What will happen when they offer Real Estate for sale at half a percent total commissions because they have access and control of the entire MLS system will that be best for all , They will hire a slug of agents for next to nothing that didn't make it in the business on there own and "wella" Wal-Mart Real Estate division is born.

Sound far fetched ask the mom and pop corner grocery stores what they think of the whole standardized world order thing.

Since the beginning of time the people who invent a system through hard work and development of ideas have always had the ones who were after them to hand it over so they could compete with the originals.

If Red-Fin and all the others who lobby for the access to the entire MLS systems across the country would pay a fair price to the Agents who work hard for the right to list properties instead of demanding equal rights to others work then maybe the whole thing could be worked out, but until then "He Who Has The Most Money Wins".

And I'm Not a Liberal   ;-(  

June 6, 2008 9:27 AM
Velda Miller
Member Since '03

Velda Miller said:

My limited understanding of RETS is that it is a must for our future.  Technology moves fast and we have to keep up with it.  

RETS standardizes the transport and exchange of data.  The easy transfer of data between systems can be a real boon as we are talking about real time access and the transportability of data. For example, one use, if you're a company responsible for setting up hundreds of IDX feeds across different platforms and database systems, you can appreciate the value of RETS.  RETS gives you not only the access to the data but the format of the data.  As end users, real estate agents need not be concerned how it gets there, just that it does.  

June 6, 2008 9:55 AM
Chris O'Neill
Member Since '06

Chris O'Neill said:

Hi Everybody.  Follow this link to find out what Point2 has to say about the RETS standard:  http://agent.point2.com/blog/2008/05/30/got-rets .  On a side note, this is a blog post on our new marketing website which we are slowly transitioning to.  Enjoy.

June 6, 2008 10:45 AM
Craig Barrett
Member Since '07

Craig Barrett said:

I can appreciate the strive for standardization as long as it applies also to those that "use" the data, ie; IDX, RSS, and other 3rd party syndication, skim or scrape vendors.

A seller doesn't care how a 3rd party got the wrong data of their house and it's being displayed on the internet for the whole word to see. And they also don't care the error is because of a lack of interoperability. They may understand, but it's wrong and it needs to be corrected.

Thinking through this leads to enforcement. Assume an error is found and RETS standard is not followed. How is it enforced?

June 6, 2008 5:14 PM
Mike  Robins
Member Since '06

Mike Robins said:

Sorry to all about the rant above I started my day on a sour note by losing a deal and vented here instead of at the person at fault.

My Bad.

June 6, 2008 5:37 PM
Gregory Bain
Member Since '03

Gregory Bain said:

I liked it, Mike! A little heated passion is what real estate needs - imho. Doesn't it feel good to let loose?

June 6, 2008 8:33 PM
Gary Szolosi
Member Since '03

Gary Szolosi said:

Mike, Cudo's to you! I agree that we are moving toward a world order and perhaps RETS is not the forum to rebel against. There are some distinct advantages to uniformity. Yes, Greg it could have some positive effects. I just hate being told I must do something a certain way and I think it does hamper the creative spirit. However, when we talk about uniformity it may be a good thing in the long run. I stand down on this issue!

But I still liked Mike's and Craig's response!!! Both of which bring up valid points.

June 6, 2008 11:11 PM
Candice A Donofrio
Member Since '07

Candice A Donofrio said:

I have a problem with RETS big time.

Though brokers would benefit by having data standardized between them, it is just another step toward us losing control of our listings because the Redfins et al would benefit.

Real estate by its very nature is unique. Standardizing data could pave the way for inaccuracies in and of itself!

June 7, 2008 7:34 AM
Gregory Bain
Member Since '03

Gregory Bain said:

Come on, Gary! We are military guys. I still step off with my left foot and say "Yes, Sir!" like I mean it. And, don't you know when I say we need some heated passion in the business - our favorite DJ steps forward ; )

Remember Sears and Roebucks? They sold houses in a catelog and then they sold you insurance with Allstate inside the stores. And, then they placed their Real Estate Company, Coldwell Banker, inside each store. Yeah, Wal-Mart is a real pioneer!

Let's take a "liberal" minute to watch and enjoy:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=NGGSqy0Q8jA

Breath deep, everythings going to be alright.

June 8, 2008 10:05 AM
Karen Weger
Member Since '05

Karen Weger said:

If it is going to happen then we must begin thinking of ways to improve our service and best utilize it to our advantage. I have a client e-mailing me this morning relocating from across the nation asking detailed questions about neighborhoods, distance to schools, etc....

An on line broker who only offers the service of giving out addresses cannot possibly help with the local scope and information. Learn to sell your service in a different light. For instance the new technology offered today in the format of Blogs is a good example of a way to do that. Think positive and always be one step ahead of the game.

And I personally cant wait to get out of a Walmart if I ever stepped foot into the circus in the first place. Hate being stomped all over by folks in a hurry to buy bread while I am trying to get my eyes examined. :) And eeewww. Hate to stand in line with supper fixings watching someone get a pedicure.

Happy Selling!

June 10, 2008 7:12 AM
Mary DeWitt
Member Since '05

Mary DeWitt said:

Gary - Listing book is promoting this standardized rets.  We can't get listing book unless we sign on. I'm not so sure that one rets system is any differnt than another.  I believe that they are trying to have one data base. My guess is your mls has already done that.  I believe you were the agent who mentioned how good the program is. . Correct me if I'm wrong.  According to listing book the east coast ( not sure how much of it) Florida and California and part of Michigan already are on board. (Same rets one data base) Standardizing I believe would eliminate misinformation that appears on Realtor.com, Homes.com truila..etc.

Let me say this i don't agree that any of these 3 parties including the newspapers should have our information... I would like to see the elimination of all the 3 party crap that keeps trying to sell me leads!

the mls in our area which has listing book got rid of their public website!

Now that I would appreciate.  Have the clients go to a real estate broker instead of all this 3 party stuff.  

If to much control would take place which I can see that as a problem

brokers can pull out.  Some have considered that already.

Getting confusing and the answers are not forthcoming which concerns me.  Why do you need to attach a great system like listing book to a particular rets?????????????

June 13, 2008 11:39 AM
Mary DeWitt
Member Since '05

Mary DeWitt said:

Rets = Real Estate Transaction Standard

BAcically information with a standard that is the same format.

June 13, 2008 11:43 AM
Mipeco Realty, Inc -  Michaela Krestenic, Broker-Owner
Member Since '03

Mipeco Realty, Inc - Michaela Krestenic, Broker-Owner said:

ok, my only question is, how is it going to affect ME? Or is it at all?

June 13, 2008 12:31 PM
Mary DeWitt
Member Since '05

Mary DeWitt said:

Effects the data on the MLS

Making it standized so information can be shared more easily.

sharing info from one area to another...etc

also software involving the data could be cheaper.

One hub for information a possibility..

June 14, 2008 11:18 AM
Mipeco Realty, Inc -  Michaela Krestenic, Broker-Owner
Member Since '03

Mipeco Realty, Inc - Michaela Krestenic, Broker-Owner said:

honestly, I don't like it. Simply, because what may work in one area may not work in another. Different locations use different terms, etc. ...

June 14, 2008 11:58 AM
Mary DeWitt
Member Since '05

Mary DeWitt said:

my understanding is we would all be using the same terms.

So much easier for the clients don't you think?

June 16, 2008 2:24 PM
Mipeco Realty, Inc -  Michaela Krestenic, Broker-Owner
Member Since '03

Mipeco Realty, Inc - Michaela Krestenic, Broker-Owner said:

Mary, that's where I have a problem ... terms that may be normal and easy for clients in one area may make little sense to clients in another area. What might be a "townhouse" in one place may be a "row house" in another and who knows what else in a third place. Where one might think "duplex" is one half of a two unit (side-by-side) home, another person knows it as a two-story condo in a city ... the local markets are very different who will decide what terms to use to make it fair for everybody?

June 17, 2008 4:45 PM

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