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New Sales Contract Guidelines – Post Mortgage Biz Meltdown

By: Phil Anderson
Thursday, July 24, 2008 2:45 PM

In the Portland metro area, Realtors make offers using the association’s standard sales agreement (we still refer to it as an “Earnest Money Agreement” or “EMA”.   Old habits die hard, I guess…).

 

Then, if a counter offer is made, we use our standard Addendum form, spelling out the terms of the Seller’s proposal.

 

There’s a first time for everything.  Today was one of those days…  

 

In an EMA, my client offered $XXXX as a sales price, and asked for $YYYY back at closing to help cover some of his closing costs.

 

The Seller countered using an Addendum, raising the sales price only, which was accepted by the Buyer and circulated for signatures, etc.   Standard stuff.

 

Then, the Buyer gave the EMA and Addendum (containing the terms of the counter offer) to his mortgage broker, who after 2 minutes of review is requiring that a new EMA be generated and signed by all parties with the final sales price and closing cost contribution.  He says, “No Addendum allowed”.

 

A hassle, I know, but the real issue is, and I’ve verified this with other lenders and mortgage brokers…., there are more and more lenders, whom once having reviewed an EMA, will decline to process the loan further due to the use of an Addendum associating sales price and closing cost contributions within the initial offer, and further they would not re-review the proposal even if resubmitted in a format acceptable to them (meaning all terms contained in an EMA document and no Addendum used).

 

I know there have been some very straight-laced lenders that have operated that way (e.g., Bank of America for this area), but this policy is spreading.

 

Is this a standard where you are? 

 

Gotta run…need to get signatures again!

 

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Gregory Bain
Member Since '03

Gregory Bain said:

Phil, the "standard" in our area is the same as with you. It takes about the same amount of effort to get a mortgage brokers license as it does to get a real estate license. Hence, we are not dealing with the sharpest knives in the draw. Keep it simple and don't confuse them with addendums. Most can't even spell the word   ; )

July 24, 2008 4:29 PM
Phil Anderson
Member Since '04

Phil Anderson said:

Interesting.... I have redrafted a sales agreement only ONE time; it was required by an out of state lender that wanted non-faxed docs and there was a lot of grumbling on my side!  

Maybe we are spoiled in Portland....

Now, don't get me wrong... I know that the lending industry is under intense pressure to straighten up and fly right, and I'm sure this, spreading, "new policy" is meant to help erroneously inflating sales prices to accommodate closing cost contribution.

But when the offer is below list and the counter brings it back to list, less a contribution, I find it hard to understand the need for new docs.   'Course...I'm not the lender!

Unfortunately, in this deal, the Buyers are split (one is here, one will be moving here).  There are 4 sellers; 2 here, one in the NE and one in Florida.  

Ahh...the pleasures of the business... :)

July 24, 2008 4:47 PM
Gail MacMillan
Member Since '05

Gail MacMillan said:

Hi Phil, I guess it's back to the old days of making changes on the face of the original contract (EMA).  Not so bad as I sometimes wonder if the addendums always find their way to the lenders.  If they are asking for a clean copy with no changes that's more of a hassle, but still not over the top!  Guess the best news is that you have a closing to look forward go - contrats on that :-)

July 25, 2008 6:38 AM

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