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SEO of P2 Pages

By: Nick Coleman
Sunday, April 08, 2007 7:29 AM

One of the features of a P2 pro account is that you can remove the header and footer on selected pages.  I've done that to create two focused pages (one buyer and one seller).  I have a domain pointed to each of these (Buyer: www.ParkCityBuyer.com and Seller: www.ParkCityHomePrices.com).  Currently, I buy adwords to drive customers to these sites (generate most of my new business this way).  Obviously, would like to optimize the pages for so the search engines will rank them on Page 1.

Here's the issue.  I was just told (by an SEO vendor) that because these two sites are redirections to my main site (www.ParkCitySold.com) that I won't be able to get the search engines to pick up these URLs.

Is this correct?

If so, suggestions on how to restructure so that I can get search engine rankings for these pages.

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Steven Burnett
Member Since '06

Steven Burnett said:

That is correct. Redirects are not indexed by robots.

April 8, 2007 8:49 AM
Steven Burnett
Member Since '06

Steven Burnett said:

Forgot to answer your 2nd question: You need to have your domain names hosted and have a real web site.

April 8, 2007 8:50 AM
Norm Fisher
Member Since '06

Norm Fisher said:

Nick,

I'm wondering if you could use a couple of the Point2 free sites for these special pages.  Set them up to look the same as your main site with all of the buttons and links pointing back to the main site.  Not sure if this would work but I can't think of a reason why it wouldn't.

April 8, 2007 9:19 AM
Todd Clark
Member Since '06

Todd Clark said:

Great idea Norm,

I think I'm going to try that myself.

April 8, 2007 9:31 AM
Rick and Kim Jones
Member Since '03

Rick and Kim Jones said:

My SEO vendor agreed with your SEO vendor. Norm has a good point that is the route I would take. Good luck and great idea.

April 8, 2007 9:34 AM
Jay & Francy Thompson  REALTORS®
Member Since '05

Jay & Francy Thompson REALTORS® said:

Norm's suggestion is sound, and would give you a unique domain/site that would be able to be ranked by SE's.

Keep in mind though it will be extremely difficult to get good search engine placement on a "micro" site like this.

Also, be *sure* to check and understand the laws in your state. These pages would be illegal in Arizona because of the size and placement of the agency statement, lack of EHO logo, etc..

April 8, 2007 9:36 AM
Ginger Fawcett
Member Since '06

Ginger Fawcett said:

Why wouldn't they get picked up if you have a domain that points to them.  Isn't that what we already do for our P2 sites when our domain is hosted elsewhere?  

Can't I have a page on my site where a domain name has the DNS changed to point to just that site but it still is part of my main site.

How is anyone else doing this?  I am interested in trying something similar and making use of the many domains I own.  What is the best way to accomplish this?

April 9, 2007 9:10 AM
Nick Coleman
Member Since '06

Nick Coleman said:

Had thought about Norm's idea.  The problem is that I don't want the design to look like an agent site ... which the free header would give me.  The concept was to create a service focused site that looks like some of the national-level real estate sites.

What I need to do is find a cheap hosting service that supports iframes.  And, have all the current design except the information capture forms hosted there.  Then embed the capture forms into the iframe (so it can go into the P2A drip email.)

Any thoughts?

April 9, 2007 9:52 AM
Nick Coleman
Member Since '06

Nick Coleman said:

Ginger ... the problem is that the technique was used by some of the shady side of the internet (gambling, porn, etc.) to drive customers to a single site.  In other words, they'd registered multiple domains that essentially went to the same site -- which meant it could show up multiple times on the search engines index.  So, the search engines don't index those types of domains anymore.

April 9, 2007 9:56 AM
Jay & Francy Thompson  REALTORS®
Member Since '05

Jay & Francy Thompson REALTORS® said:

"What I need to do is find a cheap hosting service that supports iframes."

GoDaddy hosting is something like $48/year. Maybe less if you pay a year in advance. You'd only need the minimum amount of space...

April 9, 2007 2:08 PM
Jay Rogers, ABR, C-CREC, ePRO
Member Since '07

Jay Rogers, ABR, C-CREC, ePRO said:

I think you (we) should ask Point2 if they can provide a Free Stardard Level site without a header. If so, I believe all you would have to do is have a unique email address and unique URL for for each site you want to create.

April 9, 2007 3:24 PM
Nick Coleman
Member Since '06

Nick Coleman said:

HMMM ... just sent a P2A Support Request asking if they'll let me create two free sites w/o the headers.  Would be nice since I'm a premium member and it would solve the problem.

April 10, 2007 4:20 PM
Lonn Dugan
Member Since '05

Lonn Dugan said:

hmmm....

Yes, SOME Redirects can be a problem...    

BUT THE EXAMPLES YOU GAVE DO NOT APPEAR TO BE REDIRECTED FROM your main site as near as I can tell....  The pages appear to displaying remote frames, from your main site, but the domain appears to actually resolve on an actual one page standard P2 site.  If this is correct...   then the site has every chance of being indexed.... IF WORTHY ON IT'S OWN MERIT without the iframe contnet.

You should know that iFrame content is very Bad Karma if you want to get indexed for what is showing inside the iframe... But there are some workarounds...  Namely drop the iframe in a donut hole in between approprate title and meta tag work with nice Paragraph headings and lots of spider food on the page above and below the iframe...  

Also know, Micro Sites can do EXCEPTIONALLY WELL in search engines so don't worry about that issue alone.

If you would feel better about it, to escape P2 Standard site limitations, then GoDaddy or some other is an option at something like $4 per month, but once you start using doorway sites, you want more... and it adds up.

I know of RELIABLE providers who will let you host unlimited domains for something like $24.99/mo and support most anything you can throw at them as far as traffic and technology, etc.

At least one of these will go unmentioned because the spam cops might start shooting first and asking questions second ; )

April 10, 2007 4:37 PM
Lonn Dugan
Member Since '05

Lonn Dugan said:

At least they don't look like redirects...

The content comes from your main site, and the form results may redirect to your main site, but these look they are living on their own???

No?

April 10, 2007 5:06 PM
Jay & Francy Thompson  REALTORS®
Member Since '05

Jay & Francy Thompson REALTORS® said:

Actually, according to a WhoIS search, those domains are not pointed to your P2 pages. They appear to be masked and forwarded through GoDaddy.

Looking at the code, I don't see any iframing. The bulkof the pages are images and a form, but nothing is framed....

April 10, 2007 6:01 PM

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