Jay, thanks for posting this! It makes a lot of sense!

Thank you, Jay.

Thanks Jay it makes logical sense when you read his post.

It makes sense, but it doesn't answer the question I posed on the message board - not that that was his intent. I'm just saying, it still leaves me boggled with my problem.

I have started a PI to measure P2's performance on the message board under PI.

Mike.  

“Thou speakest in riddles and I like it not!”

Wm. Shakespeare

Henry VI

Interesting comment he made about how North Metro Atlanta Real Estate practioners using these blog posts the right way will increse their rankings on search engines!

Phil, it is all answered on the message board under Performance index,

"Playing the PI game". It was posted by the top agent in Savannah Ga real estate.

Jay, thanks for the link to enable us to understand the performance index better. Many members still question whether the index should be publicly viewable. And you're right, the forum gets far fewer visits from members than Reliberation, I think Reliberation is an easier medium to comment on.

Thanks, Mike.

And congratulations to Lucia!   Top agent in Savannah!   You go!

Phil,

Stop slammin' the Brain!  He is my friend!

Pinky

I mean; he is my best north metro atlanta real estate friend.  

Sorry, couldn't help myself.  I promise I won't do it again!

You are my best Savannah ga real estate friend.

That's S-a-v-a....

Mike and Lucia....."Peace to this meeting, wherefore we are met!"

Henry V

Yes, I'm reading "The Bard" this month....

Next it's Capote's, "In Cold Blood"!   Yes, a tragic story, but I want to see how the listing agent sells that house.... :)

With the proper medication it's doable..... :)

I hated it in college, but as I now enter adulthood (HA!) I find it interesting...  I read a primer on it first, that kind of explained everything in layman's terms.  

I did the same thing with "Moby ***" a few months ago.  Primer first, then the novel made sense.  I think....

"Call me Ishmael" and bring me a signed listing contract!

Phil,

Then you will appreciate what I say to my valet each morning before going to work:

"Give me my robe, put on my crown; I have

real estate longings in me."

--altered From Antony and Cleopatra (V, ii, 282-283)

Love it, Mike.

(I can't believe RElib replaced the name D,I,C,K, as in Moby, with *s!  What about someone whose name is D,I,C,K?... You can say "cr*p" here, but not ****! :)

When I get mad at you, I will be sure to call you Richard Cranium.

So, is this Shakespeare guy you are all talking about the same guy who wrote our standard contracts?  The verbiage kinda sounds the same.  Do you know how I can get in touch with him?  I sure would like to give him a few suggestions!

Phil,

You should have just said Moby Richard.  There could be young children reading this blog unsupervised.

Getting back to Jay's post and Wendell's blog, I was just thinking...

Excerpt:

"It’s a fact that photos that are better in quality and content will be viewed more and for longer periods, than photos of lesser quality and content."

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Not necessarily so. A poor picture may require longer viewing to make out what it is. Also, the viewer may be calling to someone close by to come look at this screwed up photo, laughing their rumps off.

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The problem with this measurement is the assumptions behind it. 4 quality photos could tell a buyer all they need to know, depending on the type of property. I have beach cottages that are small and the rooms don't come out well in photos because of their size. But a couple of photos of the exterior, then a couple of the beach tells this type buyer what they want to know. It doesn't take long to view, then the next pieces of information they want are the area, price and other pertinent facts involved in beach properties.

Censors everywhere!  Well, I'M not givin' into the man!  Fight the power!  ****!    :)

Mike,

That is a good point, seriously, what if someone got up to go to the bathroom or to go have dinner and left the photo in an active window.  I don't think there would be any way to determine if the photo was actually being actively looked at.  Unless P2 has some way to see us through our monitors.  If that is the case we have much bigger worries than our PI score!

I guess they just think that overall it would be a fairly good indicator.  I don't really have a problem with that.  I have always tried to take lots of really great photos of my north metro atlanta homes for sale anyway, so nothing for me to worry about there anyway.

No, you are little miss #1. I'll bet you send apples to Brendan.

Seriously, though, there are too many variables to distinguish between quantity and quality and how either helps or hurts the listing.

You would actually have to have so much contextual information to devise a good measurement, it would be nearly impossible. So, I just won't worry about it, and I will do what I think is best.

I forgot to mention Savannah Ga real estate.

I have also seen a few homes that don't have many good photos. What I have done is photograph certain details of the home. Also consider photographing community features that are being offered by living there. You can consider hiring a professional photographer, which can dramatically improve the viewing times and quality of your photos. Keep in mind in a very competetive market, more buyers are being picky about what homes they will actually visit. If we can give them a better "picture" of whats it's like, the more likely they will actually come out and tour the property.

Yes, Jensy, I believe in good, targeted photos that match the listing.

I think for me it is a priority issue. I want photos to supplement the major informational marketing of the listing, not to be the major part.

Jay, that's worth 10 more points of street cred. Much more important than PI. :)

Wait a minute, does this indicate that I am being scored on how long people are looking at the sucky handshake listing photos that I am showing on my site, or are we getting scored only when poeple look at our personal listing photos?  It wasn't quite clear in the post.

Thanks for posting here, I don't go to the msg boards.

Jay, last time I was there, some idiot was grandstanding and everyone was mad at him and Becky was mooning him. Probably before she found her bat. He had kindof sortof asked for help then turned into a jerkwad.

Anyway, I like this format better. Just keep posting here Jay and I will be covered.

..on the cover of the rolling stone....

just wanted to put that song back in your head...lol

I have also noticed a lot less activity on the message board. It helps to check the message board more often ... it somehow keeps me better motivated when it comes to working on my site!

Guys,

Since we are supposed to wash our dirty laundry in teh laundry room,

my replies and and debate are posted on Wendell's page.

Shakespare was illeterate, he had some writing his stuff.

John

It's interesting to hear a little inside scoop about the PI.  I've enjoyed using the PI to motivate me to constantly work on my site.  I view the PI as a virtual internet coach. Since becoming a member I have used the PI to help me develop my site. It forces me to explore all the tools P2 has to offer and to continuously improve my site content. The PI has introduced me to internet technology for web sites.  For example, before becoming a member I had no idea what a Meta Tag was but after reading other posts and wanting to increase my score I've learned a lot.  I still have a long way to go but my site has been producing prospects and clients.  After all, that's the ultimate goal....right....getting clients!

I spend a ton of time on my photos editing them in photoshop and taking hundreds of them so that I can be certain to get the best portrayal of my listings.  I'm thrilled to know that this can make a difference.  I just wish I had a way to access the stats like he did.  Is there some place we can go to see such detail?  It might make me a much better photographer.

I just listed two new properties that each have the maximum number of photos and I spent hours getting them right.  How do I know which ones are the most interesting to buyers?

Here are the listings I posted (curious what you all think of the photos):

http://220Orrick.websterkirkwood.com

http://9640Litzsinger.websterkirkwood.com

And thanks to everyone who earlier in the year posted about how to become a Realtor.com PicturePath partner.  I just got my approval and it makes posting tours instantaneous.  I love that!

Your photos look great Ginger.  It certainly helps when you have a pretty subject to shoot!

I tend to stay away from posting photos of closets and laundry rooms, unless they are staged.  I think people may drop a home from the list of ones they want to see if they see closets that are cluttered and small looking.  They are trying to get away from what they already have!!

Nice work putting all the photos and verbiage on the View Rooms page.  I never use that page myself, seems kind of redundent to me.  I wish they had a way I could turn it off.  But hey, what do I know!?!

Hi Ginger,

Beautiful photos, nice use of natural lighting, and both homes were obviously prepared to show well. These photos will give any buyer interested in these homes a very good preview. Even the smaller rooms like bathrooms look appealing. Great job. As an aside and judging by the sunny pics and lovely flowers, this must be a beautiful time of year in your part of Missouri!

Just a hint for others...the time of day makes a huge difference in photos.  I originally shot photos of one of the homes late in the day and I couldn't even get them to look good by brightening them in Photoshop.  The next day it happened to be one of those gourgeous crisp clear days (rare in St. Louis) and the lighting was perfect so I went back to retake the photos.  It was amazing how different the place looked.

And yes, my sellers for one of those listings staged the home.  I'm a firm believer in staging in a slower market.  Let's hope it pays off for them.